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IT'S THEIR FAULT!1!!11 by ChikitaWolf IT'S THEIR FAULT!1!!11 by ChikitaWolf
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I'm sure those of you who have dived into the muck of debate and flaming have seen it.

I'd love to add stamps in here as examples, but the anti-religion stamps far outweighed the anti-atheism stamps (from what I could find), and I gave up x'D

As a Christian myself (I'd like to think I'd be considered a "sane" one, lmao), I've been called a lot of nasty things and gotten more than my fair share of vulgar comments. But goodness, I've seen atheists (or anyone not entirely religious for that matter) get ripped apart just as bad, if not worse.

Recently, however, I've noticed that people are starting a ridiculous crying out that "[Athiests / Religious folk] are the haters!!", "There's only hate on the [Atheist / Religion] side!!", etc.

. . . wut? :lol:

tl;dr: There's hate on both sides, people. It's not just one side's fault.

Anyway, !DoItForTheLulz says it best in regards to the extremism on both sides. :la:
I wish Christians would come up with a new nameSeriously, I wish you good Christians--the ones of value and true faith--would devise a way to call yourselves something different so that we can identify you from the morons. I mean, really. Most of you people are like anyone else, but you have morons who spout stupid shit that just makes your religion look like a brain washing factory of retardation.

I wish branding was still legal. Then we could just mark fucktards on the forehead with giant "F"s.

For "fucktard".

Edit: Now that I have your attention,

This applies to everyone. It just so happens that "Christian" is a really good topic word for people to look.

I aim this mostly at Chris


EDIT: I'd really appreciate it if people didn't attempt "turning" others away from their beliefs or lack thereof. Everyone has a right to believe in what they want - there's no need for you to start leeching onto people's comments and telling them they're messed up or wrong, etc, etc.
If I keep finding this going on, I'm going to disable comments.
Healthy conversation is encouraged, however :B

EDIT2: Need examples of what I'm talking about in this stamp? I suggest reading through the comments ;D *ahem*Page 6

EDIT3: Featured~! :heart:
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:iconkal444:
kal444 Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015
HATRED!!! Hell ya!
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SeekerOfDestiny Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree. I'm a christian, and very proud of it. But overtime I have noticed how rude and insulting other christians can be. I try to be a good example to other people and make a good impression to honor god. Even though I haven't come across many (friendly) athiests(or any other religion), I know they are out there..Theres sour apples in every religion, so it really bugs me when a religion is attacked because of one persons behavior.
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Dreaming-Dog Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I believe that every religion/belief has their flaws as well as their followers. As a Buddhist, I like to believe in a path of peace, balancing happiness and pain. However, I don't think my religion is superior to others nor that other religions are superior to mine.

I still have some hope for Atheists believing in Atheism without belittling others. However, I found a lot of nasty Atheists on Youtube.

Thank you for this stamp. Bless you and your soul u o u :heart:
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Too true! One of my close friends is a Muslim, and we happen to enjoy comparing "notes" about our different versions of the Abrahamic text that our religions are based off of xD It can be very amusing, and it's a learning experience <3

Tbh, I gave up on Youtube a long time ago. It's only gotten worse since it's been linked with Facebook :iconmingplz: So many "interesting" people there. 

Thank you for commenting! Bless you too <3
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DIJJIRI Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree but there's one thing...

Wolf Mad You either have a God who sends child rapists to rape children or you have a God who simply watches it and and says,'When you're done, I'm going to punish you.' "If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That's the difference between me and your God."
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm glad you agree!
But I'd like to throw something out there, seeing as how you've opened a touchy can of worms of sorts. 

:pointr: If God came down and stopped people from doing shitty things to each other, there'd be no free will. Free will is what allows us to make our own decisions, our own choices, of our own will. Without free will, we wouldn't be free to choose what we want to do, whether positive or negative. 

God does not "send child rapists to rape children," because that in of itself is contradictory to free will. The rapist is the one who goes to harm children - that is the rapist's choice, not God's. 
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DIJJIRI Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree! It's just that...Sigh  Have you ever wondered? Wondered,WHY GOD...WHY DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING TO STOP THIS? Because that's what I wonder...and don't you ever wonder if the people who die wonder that?! The last thing they think before they die from hunger! Starvation?!snuggy sob  Even murder!Riolu Yell
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Of course I have xD But life wouldn't be life without death, and since humans are imperfect, naturally shitty things are gonna happen when we make shitty decisions. If God stepped in so much, as I said before, we wouldn't really have free will. We can only suffer the consequences of our crappy decisions - it's the same in government.

Have you seen the most recent Captain America movie? They expressed Government in a similar position, making it a "god who intervenes" concept - eliminating those they believed would become bad people in the future and so forth. Excellent movie, and an excellent example to express this. 

Plus, if life were perfect, it'd be pretty damn boring tbh. It's through trials and suffering that we learn to love and appreciate each other. Perfection ends with disatisfaction and arrogance, because people are greedy and selfish and, quite frankly, we look for trouble. Not to say that I approve of starvation and so forth, but that's a part of life. Animals starve, people starve. That's just how life is. Unless, of course, we as humans actuallly step in and try to make a difference, rather than whining and pointing fingers at a god or God who we may or may not believe. 
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AmethystForge Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2014
well said :)
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DIJJIRI Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmmm.
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:iconchikitawolf:
ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Also, welcome to deviantART! If this is your first account, that is xD
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DIJJIRI Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
thank you and its my first account!
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DIJJIRI Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
But then again everyone's not perfect...Sarcasm :SnarkClap: 
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AmethystForge Featured By Owner May 19, 2014
very much agreed. 
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Shasta13579 Featured By Owner May 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I myself do not believe in religion but, I would rather not put a name, such as Atheist, on myself. I have never hated or put down anyone because of what they believed in. It's something I just like to leave alone and let people believe what they may. Honestly, I don't believe in people having souls, I see us as one of many organisms living on Earth. I believe we have personalities, intelligence, beliefs, and ideas just like any other animal. And since there are so any different religions, how can there be a 'true one'? Even more specific to the belief in God, how can we believe in words of other people that tell the stories in the Bible? It's like when people pass down stories of myths to explain some force of nature. Again, these are just some thoughts and that doesn't mean I would hate anyone for believing.
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WoodburyBound Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Student Writer
I don't even have to go to the sixth page. There's enough hatred on the first page of comments to make me sad about what this world is becoming.
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Looking back on it, I'd rather not point people to the sixth page anyway, cuz holy shiznits were brains melted in the ludicrousy of it all xD

Hnnn, on the bright side, at least we still have some people who use their brains lmao. Lots of crazies, yes; but the people I've met in college have given me some hope 8'D
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DaBair Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Atheists can be just as obnoxious as religious people.
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ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013   Writer
I've never been bashed for having a belief in God thankfully, but it upsets me to hear people being bashed for having or not having a belief :( I hope someday atheists and religious people can come together and just be friendly and support one another.
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irmightynoob Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
sadly that will not happen my dear but its a good dream
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:iconchaoticdarkangel:
ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013   Writer
Indeed it is. Hopefully someday people realize how foolish they sound when they bash ones religion.
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irmightynoob Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
no most humans are to stubborn to idmit  there wrong
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ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013   Writer
That's also true..sadly I know people like that =.=
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irmightynoob Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
yup
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Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013
If you were an atheist you wouldn't even need to discuss, you would be bashed by simple titles, quotes, signatures.
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:iconchaoticdarkangel:
ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013   Writer
Oh yeah. I know for a fact if I was atheist, I'd be mocked, ridiculed, etc worse then what someone gets for being christian. I think people are free to believe in whatever they want and shouldn't be bashed, for what they believe or don't believe in.
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LeopardBomb Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Student General Artist
Sadly, that probably isn't going to happen :(
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:iconchaoticdarkangel:
ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013   Writer
Unfortunately not :disbelief: Is it really that hard to respect someone's beliefs now a days? My goodness.
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:iconleopardbomb:
LeopardBomb Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Yeah, it's not good. :(
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:iconchaoticdarkangel:
ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013   Writer
Indeed it isn't *sighs* People these days huh?
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:iconleopardbomb:
LeopardBomb Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Student General Artist
It especially annoys me when people bash others for things that they do themselves.
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:iconchaoticdarkangel:
ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013   Writer
Ugh that's another pet peeve of mine! I think I know what you mean: Like if a person wants respect for their beliefs but goes around bashing people who don't agree with their beliefs?
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LeopardBomb Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.
The main one I run into though is something like this, an atheist accusing a christian of using the same arguments that all other christians use, or vis-versa, but they themselves are doing exactly the same thing.
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ChaoticDarkAngel Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013   Writer
Ugh that's another pet peeve of mine! I think I know what you mean: Like if a person wants respect for their beliefs but goes around bashing people who don't agree with their beliefs?
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Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013

Hate doesn't matter. There's hate between different fandoms, or different scientific specializations.

 

Relax, religions are only being subject to rationality, science and democracy. You know, survival of the fittest, another thing religion doesn't know.

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LeopardBomb Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2013  Student General Artist
I personally consider atheists another religious group, and there is no reason that they shouldn't be. There is almost no beliefs in any religions that actually go against scientific discoveries.
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Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013

Absence of religion isn't a kind of religion, because religion is the opinion that there's something supernatural. Saying that there's nothing supernatural isn't a way to say there's something supernatural. And almost every single belief in religions is against scientific discoveries.

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LeopardBomb Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Student General Artist
"religion is the opinion that there's something supernatural"
No, it isn't.
dictionary.reference.com/brows…
Atheism applies to meanings 1, 2 and 3. You have been logically destroyed by everybody that has had a debate with you in these comments, just give up. :rofl:

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Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013

I've been opposed in these comments, never proven wrong. Everybody that has had a debate with me in these comments is logically idiot including you, no one presented decent arguments. So that makes you funny. And you're already trolling at the first reply?

 

Your own definition of religion, even if it's partial, (and the one you quote isn't the only one) states the same thing I said, superhuman, supernatural elements, and practices.

 

Logic contradicts all of your bullshit so far. Keep trying, in a thousand years you could make (by chance, not by thinking about it) a correct statement.

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LeopardBomb Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Student General Artist
Did you even read the definitions? Let's take number two for instance (a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects) anybody literate can tell you what the means, and none of their explanations will include the word 'supernatural'.
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Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013
You're grasping at straws, what are you trying to say, that religions aren't beliefs in supernatural? Sure, because they're about Einstein's relativity. A series of supposed data about real arguments is not a religion, a computer doesn't have a religion, political views are not religions, suppositions are not religions, stubborn opinions are not religions. You know it already.
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LeopardBomb Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Student General Artist
I didn't say they weren't I just said that your definition is completely incorrect. You are the one grasping at straws.
Hey, I've got a fun game. Hows about you:
1.) Stop changing the subject every time you are beaten.
2.) Stop dodging questions.
3.) Actually post some art instead of having arguments.
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ChikitaWolf Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I beg to differ, but whatever ya say, mate. 
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RMXTrailMix Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2013
That's why Michael Shermer, the skeptic, refuses to identify as atheist.

Atheist ideals have at times not been as clean as many atheists would have you believe; one example of atheism at it's worst are the events that transpired during Mexico's La Reforma.
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Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013
Nice argument. Accuse me of terrorism while you're at it.
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:iconrmxtrailmix:
RMXTrailMix Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013

I constantly see why skeptics wish distance themselves from "atheists".

 

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Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013

Skeptics my ass. Those are philosophers. Skeptics barely discuss about it. Of course in public you can't say anything else than "there's no proof of one thing or another" instead of "religion doesn't concern science, the foolish ideas aren't suppositions brought up by signs that require investigation, they're ridiculous fantasies which have the obvious purpose of scare ignorant people of authority", which is more honest.

 

I also see why, very clearly. Because atheism hasn't absolutely stopped being hated to death by fanatics. If you've never heard thye worst nauseatingly hateful rants against atheism, you're lucky.

 

And  instead instead of saying "I see why these are the facts", you could argument something.

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:iconrmxtrailmix:
RMXTrailMix Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013
I think the horse just broke down :icondeadhorseplz:
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:iconthinker1988:
Thinker1988 Featured By Owner Sep 23, 2013

You have no arguments but you still wanna sound knowledgeable, so you start trolling, hoping this saves your ass. Instead, you reveal even more your ignorance, if there were doubts before.

 

You don't contradict what I say = you agree.

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catz537 Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's why I'm neutral, just like my mother :p I don't have proof that God does or does not exist. xD
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